I've been wondering how many realize that Facebook is more of a problem for forums like this than anything else? Did it kill the forum? With over 71,000 posts in General alone (and that's after dumping 200k or so during the site move) one wouldn't think so, after all, how could FB replace a place like this solely dedicated to darts? Personally, I do think FB played a large roll as well as Twitter because the big advertisers who supported sites like this a dozen years ago, have all moved to 'social platforms'....along with most if not all members (except CraigB). However, people are the reason a site like this exists and in the end when they migrate to other places (life changes, disputes, dislike of one another, whatever) either new people come along and replace them, or they don't. This, I think, is where FB comes into play. If for example, Blackhorse gets upset with someone on the forum (maybe it was me? who knows or remembers) and leaves for FB either someone else comes along and replaces him, or they don't. Forums exits only as long as enough people coming to them post in them which is a way of supporting the forum. Why post? Because it generates activity. One post alone might bring in a dozen or even a hundred people to read and respond and that folks is called 'traffic'. Traffic is what pays for a site to exist because advertisers want people to see their products. For example, if the site gets a million hits a day (that used to be the case here actually) than a big company like Unicorn will want to advertise there so lots of people see their ads. A site, however, that gets only a few thousand a day is less likely to garner much attention other than with friends and family. Today is a great example: 80 actual visitors at one point and two members.....and two posts. The visitors (not bots, there were 8 bots at the time) were reading various parts of the forum but not registering, logging in or posting. This is great to see the activity but it doesn't help the site survive. It's enough traffic to justify paying a hosting fee maybe, for a short time anyway, but after nearly 20 years existence when a site only has visitors and no new activity it becomes stale and is less likely to generate new content....meanwhile people are posting what they ate all day long on Facebook....and therin lies the key: Facebook has every dart player in the world posting there....much of it having nothing to do with darts, and that is what really hurts the forums. Anyway, sorry for the rant, just thinking about all the years here keeping the site alive and realizing that without your posts, the site has no reason to continue.