Two questions about Unicorn products.

Discussion in 'Tools of the Trade' started by RodmanRodman, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. Special Ed

    Special Ed New Member

    Yeah those T-90s are pretty nice. I still have my set and shoot with them fairly often. I think they had like ½ dozen or so barrel finishes, I ended up ordering a set ringed ones, where I usually prefer a fairly heavily knurled finish like on the Strikers, which I also have a set of and still use fairly often, and especially on the Bottelsen Heavy Metals. On my T-90s, all the rings are at the top portion where the shaft threads in, and the rest of the barrel all the way down to the end is plain, save for two fine cut rings way down at the end. To be honest, I'm not really sure why I even ordered them at all, and I know they had knurled finish, but for some reason I ordered outside of my normal comfort range. I also have a set of ST90s that are ringed, although those rings go further down the barrel toward the point. Funny how those 80% Strikers are among my favorites despite the fact that they cost me ½ as much as my T-90s, and less than ⅓ of many other other sets out there. One particular set of Unicorns that I really liked and still use are the Sparks, 80%, steel point, blue 24g. Another one out of my comfort zone, they're ringed also, but a more aggressive cut and they run the entire length of the barrel.
     
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  2. Special Ed

    Special Ed New Member

    Same thing with the lighter fluid except it did nothing to loosen up the remaining paint. Just for grins, I dropped 'em in a tub of 91% isopropyl rubbing alcohol. I'm not expecting it to do anything, but I leave no stone unturned lol. More to follow...
     
  3. Special Ed

    Special Ed New Member

    Hey, thanks for the info! I don't have any at the moment, but the next time I'm out shopping, I'll grab a can of Easy-Off and a bottle of Greased Lightning and see what happens. I suppose I'll try the Easy-Off first. Thanks again, that sounds like an excellent idea.
     
  4. Special Ed

    Special Ed New Member

    Hopefully some of the posters still have notifications switched on and come back and start chatting again.
    Myself? I prefer a fairly aggressive knurl, although I do have ringed sets as well. Some people grip their darts like a pencil, but I could never get used to doing that no matter how much I tried. My grip is semi-loose in my fingertips, in a linear fashion. My index finger is always just ahead of the seam between the barrel and shaft, the middle finger just forward and touching, the ring finger just ahead and touching, the pinky finger follows the same line but not touching anything, and finally my thumb directly half under the index and middle fingers.
    Before I signed up for an account, I read a few threads and noticed that many had been dead for severals years. I figured I'd take a chance anyway, and a thread that 9 years dead is getting comments again and lots of useful info and suggestions.
     
  5. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    I just spoke with an old school mechanical service man and he thinks that coil cleaner might do the trick. He said ac could are sometimes coated to help reduce the amount of dust and grease that gets stuck. There are two types a non acid and an acid based. He said to start with the non acid because you could rinse and dry as opposed to having to first neutralize the solution. Mentioned too that carburetor cleaner might also do the trick. Hope this helps.
     
  6. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    I tried out the Latinum's a while back -- weren't they white? -- and found them too slippy so I went back to the titaniums until I made my own darts. I ended up sticking with just plane old tungsten in the end.
     
  7. Special Ed

    Special Ed New Member

    I'm afraid I'm not following. What is coil cleaner and where would I be able to find it?
     
  8. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    Sorry! That would be air conditioner coil cleaner. Good chance they have it at your local true value or ace hardware. That would likely be the non acid one cause I think the heavier duty one may only be available to pros. The carburetor cleaner would probably be the next try unless you know a commercial HVAC tech.
     
  9. Special Ed

    Special Ed New Member

    I'm really not sure what colors they came in. My set is grayish silverish with a few sets of black double pinstripes. They aren't from any collection and they don't have any of those player endorsements or signatures. From what I can tell, they weren't limited to only one construction, but mine appear to be brass as they appear very similar in size to my Unicorn Tournament 5000s. The first time I touched them my mind went way back to the late 80s... The only thing I can remember ever touching anything that slippery was a marketing idea from Slick 50. They made up God only knows how many millions of these little round aluminum discs about the size of a nickel with one side left bare, and the other side coated with Slick 50. I was working in auto parts at the time, and those little aluminum discs were everywhere. I haven't been able to find out for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that the Latinum coating is nothing more than Teflon, or at least something with a healthy dose of it as its main ingredient.
     
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  10. Special Ed

    Special Ed New Member

    Ok thank you for the advice and the clarification. I've never heard of a/c cleaner, so that never would have even been on my radar. Lots of good ideas to look into.
     
  11. zeeple

    zeeple Member

    I have mad respect for Unicorn, but I freely admit I do not use many of their products. I do believe, however, that their more-sharply-angled standard flights are head shoulders better than any other standard flight that I have ever used. As for the latinum series of darts, I did have some John Part Latinums (or was it the Lloyds?). Like everyone else I found that they slipped out of your fingers if you even looked at them wrongly. It was like trying to throw a small fish, like a minnow. I am glad they abandoned that idea.
     
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  12. zeeple

    zeeple Member

    By the way, is RodmanRodman still a member here? I'd love to get a hold of him.
     
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  13. Squiggle

    Squiggle Active Member

    He hasn't been on here in quite a while. He may have forgotten his login information. I'm friends with him though. PM me your email and I'll send you his contact info.
     
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  14. Special Ed

    Special Ed New Member

    Ok... I got tired of spraying these things and dunking them into one chemical after another, so here's what I did... I'm pretty sure this isn't going to be a permanent solution, but... Elmer's Rubber Cement. Like I said, I got tired of hitting these things with one chemical after another, and having nothing happen except some of the black painted stripes flaking off. I took the shafts off, stuck one of the barrels through the top of a cardboard box, leaving about an inch or so of space, got most of the cement off of the applicator brush, leaving almost none left to work with, and spread the cement evenly going around the barrel, then up and down, then around it again. I went over the barrel about three or four times, making sure it looked to be spread out as evenly as possible, with just one coat. Then I allowed it tack up for several hours, watching for drips, but none occured so I had the right amount. Then I rolled it around in my fingers a few times to get rid of most of the tack and to make sure the coating was evenly distributed, stuck it into the top of the box again and allowed it to set up overnight. This morning I had a slightly rubberized barrel with just a hint of tack left, but after a little bit of handling it started drying up pretty quickly, so now I have a barrel that is no longer slickery, with just a hint of grip. It just kind of hit me last night that instead of trying to remove something, maybe the answer lies in adding something instead, and rubber cement was the first thing I thought of. I just got done coating the other two barrels, so it'll be a few hours before I even think about touching them again, and then the rest of the day and into the evening before I think they'll be ready for any more handling. I'm really not sure how long it will last because the natural oils from my fingers are all but guaranteed to start breaking the cement down, but at least now I might get to use them for a little bit before I throw them away. The only problem... Between what I had in stock here at home and what I purchased along the way, I threw away more money trying to remove the barrels' finish than the darts are actually worth, definitely more than what I paid for them, and there's still the very real possibility that I still won't like them.
     
  15. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    That’s a logical way to go. Sorry the other suggestions didn’t work out. There were golf clubs years ago that coated the face with a “gritty” coating that wasn’t much more than ground glass and some kind of heavy duty adhesive paint. That may be an option if you don’t want to continue the rubber cement feedback loop.
     
  16. Special Ed

    Special Ed New Member

    Thank you anyway for the recommendation. For now, they're usable but the rubber is already starting to flake a little. They're definitely better, and believe it or not, it's nothing like throwing those Viper or Bottelsen (I really don't remember who made them) Sure Grip barrels with the rubber sleeves. I bought a set of those around 20 years ago just to see, because they were cheap enough, but I found out pretty quickly that it was just a gimmick and they really really really sucked. I've reached the ceiling of money, time and patience with these. Once they get back to the point where they need to be recoated, I think I'm just going to remove the shafts, tape up the points real good and toss them in the trash. I thought briefly about using ShoeGoo, which I have the majority of a tube of, and I think as far as longevity goes, it probably would have been a lot better and possibly a long term or even permanent solution, but it would probably be too difficult to work with and get a thin and consistent coating.
     
  17. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    I’d have a go with them if, after taping them up you mail them to me instead. I’m quite a tinkerer!
     

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