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Discussion in 'MINUTE MAN Dart League (MMDL)' started by Chitown599, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. Chitown599

    Chitown599 Administrator Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    I would like to hear all the varied opinions, and why you think which era of darts were, or are the best.
     
  2. kirby

    kirby New Member

    I was younger... :wink:
     
  3. dwalsh

    dwalsh New Member

    Can't speak to the 70's but the 80's-90's was in my opinion worlds ahead of todays darts.The talent was much deeper,attitudes were different.DUI's were not as prevalent...You couldn't move in a dart bar on a Tues.night.There was a LOD every night of the week,other than league night.It was a culture.
     
  4. Chitown599

    Chitown599 Administrator Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    We'll just say you were not around.

    I would like this poll to stay with the question, and reply only if it pertains to the poll. I posted this poll for a reason.

    Thanks
     
  5. kirby

    kirby New Member

    I remember playing with "feathers" and Nodor dart boards, of which I can still remember the smell of when they were new..Nobody really cared about the lighting and we all used real Chaulk..It was cheaper to get your "Liquid Aim" on then.. :lol: You could smoke in "every" dart haunt..The women were younger.. :lol: Nobody thought twice about grabbing a 6 pack and a pint of Blackberry Brandy for a short road trip to Stoughton where you could be in 1 of 3 gin mills all within a rocks throw of each other..

    If you're asking about the players and who were more talented??? Well there were just more of them back then..I would'nt want to compare the players now to then..I think the players back then all practiced more than the player of today thus there were more good players..
     
  6. kirby

    kirby New Member

    I'm so sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry, you old miserable bastard.... :roll:
     
  7. Chitown599

    Chitown599 Administrator Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Not miserable Paul, just want to stay on topic so I can read all the different opinions, and why. I want to put something together, and it would make it much easier if I didn't have to sift through all the off topic stuff.

    Carry on folks.
     
  8. jakesy

    jakesy New Member

    I don't think I could add any more to what Dave said, he pretty much covered it all.
    The only thing I find and have found curious for a long time is why have dart shooters not modified the way they go about drinking and darting as opposed to using it as an excuse for the game falling out of favor.
    There are so many ways around it, I won't bother to list them. I think it's a convenient excuse.
     
  9. AmericanBadAss

    AmericanBadAss Administrator Staff Member Site Admin

    I wasn't around for option A..but to hear the stories from you guys even the 90's were something I wish I was around for. I didn't start playing till 2001 and didn't even meet a higher level player till end of 04.
     
  10. GT

    GT New Member

    I started in the league in 1991, and didn't really take advantage of all the places that had tons of pickup game whenever you wanted, some for money, some for fun....now in Boston there's not nearly the same scene, it is sad. So I was there in the 10,000 member days, didn't know how good we had it then.

    Didn't play SA until around 2003, not that long ago and there were twice as many high level players just back then....we've lost a lot of top shots in the last 5 years alone in every area, but particularly Boston and Central.

    Funny enough, the Spirit Bar in Cambridge just posted on the league FB page that they have pickup games there on I think Th, Fri and Sat, put your name up and challenge on the board, winner keeps the board and some $5 games. Talk about Old School, haven't seen much of that in Boston for years.

    There is hope, I've actually met A LOT of young shooters lately who are not too bad and have hunger to improve. We just have to make sure they keep having a means and a route to get to the top.
     
  11. JD

    JD New Member

    the past is always going to seem better for some reason! one of the differences between now and then.... is more leagues, and that equals more options. the volume of players back when, made it easier to field better teams and move those teams around. back when Johnny B. wasn't a fossil, :lol: a lot of players were even older than him. probably a good reason a lot of them don't play now. check the volume of players that play in all the local leagues (even in-house leagues) and there are still a lot of people playing this game.
     
  12. Chitown599

    Chitown599 Administrator Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    Personally, I didn't throw my first dart until 1990. But once I really got into the game, I was fortunate enough to meet some of the great players, dating back to the 70's. Lenny Smith was one of those players, and he had a lot of interesting stories to tell.
    I also heard some great stories from Eric Bristol, and Jockey Wilson. Butler, Kelly, Umberger, Watkins, Mick Sweeney and players who dominated the 80's and 90's also had some great stories to tell.
    So I only really know the 90;s and present, but I think A is my choice, only because when I started in 90, there were so many players that were not afraid to play all comers, and actually looked forward to playing them.
    Today's players seem to be satisfied with just throwing with friends, and having a few beers. Most shy away from playing the top players, and go as far as breaking up their team to avoid playing them. This never happened in the past.
    Myself, I wish I did get an earlier start in the game. While I did play against all those I have mentioned, I didn't play against them nearly as long as I would have liked.
    The bottom line is, when I first joined the MMDL, there were around 10,000 players, when I retired this past fall, I don't think there are over 1,000 players now. And there were a lot more tournament out there back then, that had purses over $15,000 or better. I doubt you will ever see either again.
     
  13. GT

    GT New Member

    Frank, last season had over 4000 players in the league. :oops:

    We have over 1500 people subscribed to the email list.
     
  14. Chitown599

    Chitown599 Administrator Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    Greg, I really didn't think there were that many players left. Sorry for the error, and thanks for correcting it.
     
  15. AmericanBadAss

    AmericanBadAss Administrator Staff Member Site Admin

    On the South last season we had approx 140 teams. Average roster size is 8 so just here that's 1120.

    But agreed I remember in 2001 when it went down to H. There were not as many divisions within each letter always but still a lot more teams.
     
  16. Chitown599

    Chitown599 Administrator Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    Thanks Chris. I really don't want this to turn into a MMDL thing. This is for darts in general, and how different players are from era to era. I only mentioned the amount of players in the MMDL as an example of how the amount of players have declined.
     
  17. AmericanBadAss

    AmericanBadAss Administrator Staff Member Site Admin

    IMO the amount of players in general has declined, but the amount of the top players has REALLY declined. Not names and faces, just sheer numbers. Thoughts?
     
  18. WC

    WC New Member

    English Darts actually "arrived" in the USA via Viet Nam Vets who picked up the game while on R&R in Australia beginning in the mid '60s.

    In that returning Vets lived all over the US, Darts sprang up everywhere.

    Millions of Vets continue to maintain boards and shoot in their homes and businesses - long after they stopped spending time with any reqularity in bars.

    I know. I am one of them.
     
  19. dwalsh

    dwalsh New Member

    Frank this poll should be in the General Darts section and the poll you have in General Darts section about the former MMDL tournaments,should be in this section. :twisted:
     
  20. Chitown599

    Chitown599 Administrator Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    But neither is about only the MMDL. I listed the local tournaments, because those were the ones I missed the most. The choice of other, is for those in other areas who have lost tournaments, as we have.
     

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