Goals

Discussion in 'Practice, Strategy & Technique' started by Mountain, Apr 14, 2019.

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Are these goals achievable?

  1. Can be achieved

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  1. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    Here’s hoping all is well after surgery. No worries from me. Not quite near you yet but, I’ll be coming! Missing just outside the wires! 400 club here I come by July I hope!
     
  2. Mountain

    Mountain Member

    Yes, well, partly my fault. My daughter bought herself a cheap skateboard six months ago and progressed to a level of competence I thought should be rewarded with a proper longboard. The intersection of skill and equipment performance resulted in a nasty break, which required a steel rod to be inserted to an unstable growing bone. She is happy, the Dr was happy yesterday with results of the follow-up X-Ray, so I am a little more comfortable now.
    As for darts, well I won 2 of my 4 games, or more correctly didn't lose 2. I had a lot of trouble hitting the lipstick, wiring either above or below with very few in the middle. What was pleasing though was that I was throwing on the vertical very well, so although not hitting a lot of 100+ throws, I was getting 60's rather than 45's or 26's. My pegging was just acceptable, with a lot of misses on the wires, and this enabled me to get the two games I did.
    Next weekend I will be playing my first representative games, so I will have to pull my socks up. The comp is a double in tournament, so lots of BHRtW I see coming up for the next week. I copied your targets Van, they are my motivation now. Game on!
     
  3. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    Glad to hear about the daughter! Skateboards are fun but have their negative outcomes. Glad to hear on the league results too. Doublenin is what I was told were “proper” darts years ago. Look for that double that just “fits” so that you don’t have to worry and then figure your strategy from there! Looking forward to our mutual improvements!
     
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  4. Mountain

    Mountain Member

    Doubles are funny buggers I have discovered, they can vary from day to day. D16 is my go-to, but I think D20 is my favourite. For some reason I always hit D14 and D15, even if the standard outs are giving me the gyp...

    As for improvements, so am I looking forward to progressing. Always better with a training partner to push you along
     
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  5. Mountain

    Mountain Member

    Thanks Van for the suggestion. I’ve been practising on D14 for the competition, and enjoying the results. Tried a few rounds of BHRtW to break it up, and then had a go at plain old RTW. New score for you now Van
     
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  6. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    Ha! Nice go round! A long distance virtual “high 5” from me!
     
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  7. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    I’m just stuck but not discouraged. Seem to be about 20% off my games. I’ll just keep plugging away. Just like some of my old posts said I’m just on the wrong side of the wire and I can put 2 darts together but tend to flare the 3rd. Forcing it I guess because I know i have better form than I show. Stinks!
    Mountain, I always thought the doubles on the side were excellent choices for doubling on, so D14 is one to stick with. You said the vertical plane of your throw was improving so it all sounds good!
     
  8. Mountain

    Mountain Member

    I've been watching and waiting for movement Van, I'm sure it'll come in a big flood as Eric suggested. I know about the third dart flare-out; really, really annoying. I am conscious that when I am relaxed the points pierce properly and grouping tightens, so I have tried to pressure myself on the D14's. I feel like a bit of an idiot because I wanted to try some other darts, I was really curious about the smooth barreled Buntings, and 14g. I chose the scallops because when I decided to join a darts competition I thought I should have some darts! I was sitting in our Returned Services club, crying into my beer about not having any mates after moving to a new state, when I saw a sign advertising for players. I went to the local sports shop and they didn't have a big selection, but a set of Puma scallops seemed the closest to what I wanted, so away I went. I moved to the Mervyn Kings when I wanted to try something heavier, and eventually came back down to 22g. I liked the smooth barrel (I have never had a problem with sweaty hands) and the fact it forced you to place your fingers precisely for every throw. Lastly, they wouldn't wear the way a fine finned grip could be being repeatedly struck, and I wanted a dart that could guide, rather than impede stacking. So I found a pencil dart with lots of barrel, and some fairly wide grooves (Deadeye Hurricane Darts - 22gms - Deadeye Darts Australia ), so I know the grip won't wear. It felt really strange after the Kings to have purchase on my thumb, but from the first throw they felt 'powerful'. I was able to throw them with a flatter, truer trajectory, and my grouping on the lipstick tightened immediately (less flaring). I also used the in-between shafts from the Buntings, and have eliminated the occasional brush on my chin. So, bugger it, committed to change even on the eve of my first representative event.
    Here's hoping the darts click soon Van. I always think of practice as removing the overburden. Even if you don't see results know you are getting closer to the mother lode. Keep digging, the nuggets could be revealed with the next strike of the shovel...
     
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  9. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    Thanks! It will come along and probably in a large jump. Unfortunately my personality makes me kind of focus too much on the detail. Without a place to just “play” the game its hard to practice without thinking about mechanics. Love the mining reference! A young man that worked at our restaurant is finishing a mining engineering degree next year!
     
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  10. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    Saw a bit of improvement today. Ran around some CCU and on this one I’m a believer in averages so although I tossed a high of 32 my average over the ten legs was a hair over 27! So Mountain I have a new number for ya! Maybe this is the start of something good!
     
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  11. Mountain

    Mountain Member

    You bloody beauty! Outliers are very sweet; averages are just so dull and boring, lumbering along with the momentum of a super-tanker. I've been trying to beat my 100 @ 20's score, and average on the hundred. Very slow creep, and I think it is building up my concentration stamina that is going to turn that big ship around. Certainly the RtW score update I had just 'happened', after all the practicing on doubles the triples just seemed fresh and I was in the zone; success breeds success and builds motivation. My subsequent attempts went back to average...
     
  12. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    100@ was gonna be next for me. I struggle because I rely pretty heavy on rhythm so I have stretches where I can average 6 marks and then others where it’s 0 or 1. They just go from the 20s to the 1s or 5s. Funny thing is I don’t go back and forth I just get stuck “off” by a fraction. Still tight groups, good darts, just misses.
     
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  13. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    Had just a few free minutes today so I went round once on bobs27. Finally clicked bit. Didn’t think I would better my best but 2 in d18 and d20 and DBull on first dart managed to squeak it out.. 387!
     
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  14. Mountain

    Mountain Member

    Sensational finish. Just back from the weekends tournament. Doubled in well, and got most finishes. Really pleasing in my team games. The practice paid off. Always nice when the opposition sees you hit 3 double 20’s, or double 16, 8 and 4 in a single throw. Gives you the confidence to eat pressure. Very impressed with your finish to hit the big doubles and bull. Looks like I better get to my target before you do. Great work Van.
     
  15. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    It was odd for the d19 because I’m fairly tall and most times can’t make myself reach for the finish on those bottom doubles. I’ve begun practicing using a putting technique that seems to payoff. Tossing from about 24 inches closer. We used to practice short putts without backstroke. The putt had to be long enough to force a follow through but not so long as to force acceleration. That 24” closer seems to be it(for me at least).
     
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  16. Mountain

    Mountain Member

    Okay Van, just letting you know I haven’t dropped off the face of the earth. I just equalled my Catch 40 score, and should have beaten it if I had kept up my concentration. At the tournament one of the blokes came up and told me that I stuffed up on 126 because I threw at the 20’s to start. Then on Wednesday I threw at 20 on 119, and as soon as the dart landed I realised; the scorer turned to me (my team Captain) and he passed a silent ‘you are a dickhead’ look at me. I nodded. Yes I am.
    So I am back to counting as a practice priority, and the numbers are slowly sinking through the ooze. I was very happy at the tournament that in the deciding game of one of my singles I won by taking out 72 in two darts. Knowing what I was going to do before stepping to the oche was a great help. I was lucky 72 is a simple one to remember.
    I have also found that all the practice on doubles for the tournament has given me a lot of confidence in finishing, so I will maintain Bob’s 27, and BH RtW. My averages at the 100’s and Bulls are also slowly creeping up, and I reckon it was all the games of CCU that helped me hit the T16 on the 72 peg.
    Anyway, game on...
     
  17. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    I’ve sort of been checked out a bit too. I’ve grown very frustrated with the flared darts. I feel like they result from my concept of how to hold the dart. I’m in the process of making that horribly challenging change of hold. I feel like there is one that helps to “lock in” a solid position to assist in making a consistent stroke. Similar to proper holds on a golf club. So far likening the results but it’s a drag. Thinking of writing an article for the forum about it too.
     
  18. Mountain

    Mountain Member

    I know your pain Van. When I discovered I was left eye dominant I had to change my stance to be able to aim for my target. I was just chucking them at the target before someone told me I should be aiming by lining up my throw. What helped me move from front-on to side on was taking a month off work to finish some study and using the breaks to take my frustrations out on the dartboard. What was once weird now is becoming more and more mechanical as I try to work on form and cadence.
    I just switched from the scalloped and smooth Kings to the same weighted darts that have some grooves. When I tested them I felt the extra grip eliminated a bit of lob and gave me the ability to throw at a target more. Still slip back into something more RvB than MvG, and they are both pencil barrelled, so not that great a change, but still tinkering.
    I don’t need to tell you change is hard, but you know it will be worth it once you get through the trough of despair...
     
  19. Mountain

    Mountain Member

    Finally, a break through. Took out 99 in three (which was lucky as I missed the T19), which pushed me over the line. Still plenty of improvement there, lots of 1’s on the chalkboard, but at least I am pegging.
     
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  20. Mountain

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    Today is a good day. Just equalled my 34 Bulls
     
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